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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/celebrating-intellectual-dishonesty-in-the-abortion-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Thanks for your comment.  Obviously I haven&#039;t scoured each and every study for evidence of bias and inaccuracy. Since I&#039;m not a scientist, that&#039;s not a standard I have to meet, and it isn&#039;t one I expect a 12-year-old kid to meet. 

However, I have reviewed the relevant surveys of literature and haven&#039;t seen any compelling evidence that abortion causes breast cancer.  How many people who repeat the idea can say the same?  It&#039;s a notion that fits neatly into an existing agenda, and spreading it around is like forwarding one of those ridiculous chain emails and expecting the recipients to participate. 

Regarding your postscript, one of the many dictionary definitions of the word &quot;myth&quot; is &quot;an unfounded or false notion.&quot;  Mircea Eliade or Joseph Campbell might not approve of my usage, but it is a perfectly acceptable way to use the word.

At best, you&#039;re splitting hairs here.

PS: Don&#039;t use the word &quot;their&quot; in place of the word &quot;they&#039;re&quot; and don&#039;t substitute &quot;whose&quot; for &quot;who&#039;s.&quot;  It&#039;s disrespectful to the English language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  Obviously I haven&#8217;t scoured each and every study for evidence of bias and inaccuracy. Since I&#8217;m not a scientist, that&#8217;s not a standard I have to meet, and it isn&#8217;t one I expect a 12-year-old kid to meet. </p>
<p>However, I have reviewed the relevant surveys of literature and haven&#8217;t seen any compelling evidence that abortion causes breast cancer.  How many people who repeat the idea can say the same?  It&#8217;s a notion that fits neatly into an existing agenda, and spreading it around is like forwarding one of those ridiculous chain emails and expecting the recipients to participate. </p>
<p>Regarding your postscript, one of the many dictionary definitions of the word &#8220;myth&#8221; is &#8220;an unfounded or false notion.&#8221;  Mircea Eliade or Joseph Campbell might not approve of my usage, but it is a perfectly acceptable way to use the word.</p>
<p>At best, you&#8217;re splitting hairs here.</p>
<p>PS: Don&#8217;t use the word &#8220;their&#8221; in place of the word &#8220;they&#8217;re&#8221; and don&#8217;t substitute &#8220;whose&#8221; for &#8220;who&#8217;s.&#8221;  It&#8217;s disrespectful to the English language.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/celebrating-intellectual-dishonesty-in-the-abortion-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenn,

I have to disagree with this as an example of intellectual dishonesty. I&#039;m sure both those claiming an increased cancer risk, and those claiming no increased risk are both convinced their telling the truth.

As for whose right, I wouldn&#039;t be so sure that we know. The page you link to gives a good warning about one kind of bias that can happen in studies, but it wasn&#039;t a thorough examination of the studies it considered to be more accurate.

I haven&#039;t poured over all the various studies, have you? Without doing so all we can do is choose which authority to trust over others.

PS: Don&#039;t use the word &quot;myth&quot; as a synonym for fallacy. I know it&#039;s common, but it&#039;s disrespectful to mythology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn,</p>
<p>I have to disagree with this as an example of intellectual dishonesty. I&#8217;m sure both those claiming an increased cancer risk, and those claiming no increased risk are both convinced their telling the truth.</p>
<p>As for whose right, I wouldn&#8217;t be so sure that we know. The page you link to gives a good warning about one kind of bias that can happen in studies, but it wasn&#8217;t a thorough examination of the studies it considered to be more accurate.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t poured over all the various studies, have you? Without doing so all we can do is choose which authority to trust over others.</p>
<p>PS: Don&#8217;t use the word &#8220;myth&#8221; as a synonym for fallacy. I know it&#8217;s common, but it&#8217;s disrespectful to mythology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/celebrating-intellectual-dishonesty-in-the-abortion-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it all depends on whether you think that moral ends justify morally lacking means.  Although as I alluded to, even if one believes the ends justify the means, using inaccurate data to support a cause will ultimately backfire and undermine one&#039;s goal.  That&#039;s how lefties end up with so much low hanging pro-life-mocking fodder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it all depends on whether you think that moral ends justify morally lacking means.  Although as I alluded to, even if one believes the ends justify the means, using inaccurate data to support a cause will ultimately backfire and undermine one&#8217;s goal.  That&#8217;s how lefties end up with so much low hanging pro-life-mocking fodder.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/celebrating-intellectual-dishonesty-in-the-abortion-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the objective scientific truth is important but since most pro-life advocates are Christians I believe it is hard for them to reconcile the rules of debate with the urgency they must feel to end what they see as a literal holocaust.

I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;d respect them more if they really researched the pros and cons of abortion (which would seem feckless) or if they continue with a campaign that may be somewhat dishonestt but atleast has the urgency I&#039;d expect from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the objective scientific truth is important but since most pro-life advocates are Christians I believe it is hard for them to reconcile the rules of debate with the urgency they must feel to end what they see as a literal holocaust.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;d respect them more if they really researched the pros and cons of abortion (which would seem feckless) or if they continue with a campaign that may be somewhat dishonestt but atleast has the urgency I&#8217;d expect from them.</p>
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