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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point about race, Chris.  Now that sandwich is even more unappetizing.  I&#039;ll have the 7 incher slathered in racism with a twist of misogyny please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point about race, Chris.  Now that sandwich is even more unappetizing.  I&#8217;ll have the 7 incher slathered in racism with a twist of misogyny please.</p>
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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the add is from Singapore it is /possible/ that the point is not that the woman is a woman, but that the woman is a white European in a yellow country. So the point could be racist rather than misogynist, colonial Europeans are not seen well in Singapore, Vietnam, and a few other Asian countries that remember casual sublimation of their government to foreign powers. It could racist with a misogynist twist, with the deliberate intent of violating the enemy&#039;s woman. Very Stone Age.

Normally, I don&#039;t psychoanalyze ads that much (or even usually at all), but it&#039;s hard not to join in. And I certainly understand that ads are very often meant to have a visceral or subliminal effect not immediately apparent to the conscious mind.

Then again, it&#039;s very hard to be certain what the visceral/subliminal message is meant to be. It could be something very simple (if still basically sexist) like &#039;this ain&#039;t no girly burger.&#039; I know I am not alone among male fast food consumers with large appetites sometimes disappointed by the size of the portions at Burger King or McDonald&#039;s.

None of this is meant to dismiss or devalue Jenn&#039;s analysis, I am simply trying to enjoy thinking up subliminal messages. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the add is from Singapore it is /possible/ that the point is not that the woman is a woman, but that the woman is a white European in a yellow country. So the point could be racist rather than misogynist, colonial Europeans are not seen well in Singapore, Vietnam, and a few other Asian countries that remember casual sublimation of their government to foreign powers. It could racist with a misogynist twist, with the deliberate intent of violating the enemy&#8217;s woman. Very Stone Age.</p>
<p>Normally, I don&#8217;t psychoanalyze ads that much (or even usually at all), but it&#8217;s hard not to join in. And I certainly understand that ads are very often meant to have a visceral or subliminal effect not immediately apparent to the conscious mind.</p>
<p>Then again, it&#8217;s very hard to be certain what the visceral/subliminal message is meant to be. It could be something very simple (if still basically sexist) like &#8216;this ain&#8217;t no girly burger.&#8217; I know I am not alone among male fast food consumers with large appetites sometimes disappointed by the size of the portions at Burger King or McDonald&#8217;s.</p>
<p>None of this is meant to dismiss or devalue Jenn&#8217;s analysis, I am simply trying to enjoy thinking up subliminal messages. :)</p>
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		<title>By: PatrickKelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatrickKelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, seven-inches is probably a pretty respectable size in Singapore ROFLMAO</description>
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		<title>By: DodiaFae</title>
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		<dc:creator>DodiaFae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;And just as an aside, if they really wanted the sandwich to seem impressive, shouldn’t they have added a few inches?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

ROFLMFAO  Yes, 7&quot; is just average, isn&#039;t it? Honestly, I&#039;m busting a gut over here.

Yes, the woman in the ad does look completely horrified... right down to the dilated pupils of her eyes.  I can&#039;t imagine who their target audience is, either.  Singapore?  Are they still trying to export America&#039;s obesity problems to the rest of the world?  That&#039;s at least a couple of regular sized cheese burgers worth, isn&#039;t it?  And the sandwich in the picture looks like they&#039;ve topped it with fries, cheese, bbq sauce (?), and mayo... I can hear my left ventricle slamming shut just thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;And just as an aside, if they really wanted the sandwich to seem impressive, shouldn’t they have added a few inches?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>ROFLMFAO  Yes, 7&#8243; is just average, isn&#8217;t it? Honestly, I&#8217;m busting a gut over here.</p>
<p>Yes, the woman in the ad does look completely horrified&#8230; right down to the dilated pupils of her eyes.  I can&#8217;t imagine who their target audience is, either.  Singapore?  Are they still trying to export America&#8217;s obesity problems to the rest of the world?  That&#8217;s at least a couple of regular sized cheese burgers worth, isn&#8217;t it?  And the sandwich in the picture looks like they&#8217;ve topped it with fries, cheese, bbq sauce (?), and mayo&#8230; I can hear my left ventricle slamming shut just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Desire and Yearning, Burger King Style : The New Agenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desire and Yearning, Burger King Style : The New Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post originally appeared on the author&#8217;s blog, Jenn Q. Public.  The author presents her own views, not necessarily those of The New Agenda.  A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DodiaFae, you&#039;re right, I can&#039;t imagine that this ad would appeal to a significant portion of the male population.  Then again, it&#039;s apparently running in Singapore and I don&#039;t know a whole lot about their culture so I can&#039;t really speculate.  Are men supposed to think, she looked horrified at the idea of having that in her mouth, but I&#039;m a man, I can handle the 7 incher?  I&#039;m fine with gender-targeted advertising, I just can&#039;t figure out what gender/sexual orientation/level of aggression this ad is meant to appeal to.

And just as an aside, if they really wanted the sandwich to seem impressive, shouldn&#039;t they have added a few inches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DodiaFae, you&#8217;re right, I can&#8217;t imagine that this ad would appeal to a significant portion of the male population.  Then again, it&#8217;s apparently running in Singapore and I don&#8217;t know a whole lot about their culture so I can&#8217;t really speculate.  Are men supposed to think, she looked horrified at the idea of having that in her mouth, but I&#8217;m a man, I can handle the 7 incher?  I&#8217;m fine with gender-targeted advertising, I just can&#8217;t figure out what gender/sexual orientation/level of aggression this ad is meant to appeal to.</p>
<p>And just as an aside, if they really wanted the sandwich to seem impressive, shouldn&#8217;t they have added a few inches?</p>
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		<title>By: DodiaFae</title>
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		<dc:creator>DodiaFae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL
I&#039;m sorry, I have to laugh at that ad.  
It&#039;s obviously not meant to appeal to any self-respecting women (I&#039;m certainly not impressed by it).  

And let&#039;s consider for a moment the men that it would appeal to...

The men who have little/no respect for women.  But honestly, how do they think they&#039;re going to look while eating one of those &quot;Super Seven Inchers&quot;?  A bit like the blond in the ad, I should think.  Or maybe they&#039;ll look like they&#039;re getting more enjoyment out of it.  Hmmm... 

The closet homo-eroticism of all that makes me question whether my ex-boyfriend has gotten into advertising. 

Yeah, that&#039;s bound to backfire.

I wasn&#039;t impressed by the square-butts ads, either... particularly when they were played on networks geared toward kids.  Kids watching &quot;Nickelodeon&quot; shouldn&#039;t be getting that reference in the first place.

I still prefer Wendy&#039;s for my occasional &quot;fast food&quot; fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL<br />
I&#8217;m sorry, I have to laugh at that ad.<br />
It&#8217;s obviously not meant to appeal to any self-respecting women (I&#8217;m certainly not impressed by it).  </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s consider for a moment the men that it would appeal to&#8230;</p>
<p>The men who have little/no respect for women.  But honestly, how do they think they&#8217;re going to look while eating one of those &#8220;Super Seven Inchers&#8221;?  A bit like the blond in the ad, I should think.  Or maybe they&#8217;ll look like they&#8217;re getting more enjoyment out of it.  Hmmm&#8230; </p>
<p>The closet homo-eroticism of all that makes me question whether my ex-boyfriend has gotten into advertising. </p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s bound to backfire.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t impressed by the square-butts ads, either&#8230; particularly when they were played on networks geared toward kids.  Kids watching &#8220;Nickelodeon&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t be getting that reference in the first place.</p>
<p>I still prefer Wendy&#8217;s for my occasional &#8220;fast food&#8221; fix.</p>
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