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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/playboy-now-with-more-misogyny/comment-page-1/#comment-3251</link>
		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tell me, what religious and moral grounds you can use to attack Michelle Malkin?&quot;

Let&#039;s see... she doesn&#039;t love her neighbor, or at the very least she does not behave in a manner appropriate to the principle of loving thy neighbor as outlined in the Bible. She frequently professes as much hatred (or more) for the sinner than for the sin, except when the sin fits into her prejudiced view of the world. I have not seen evidence of forgiveness or humility in accord with Biblical principles of both in her behavior.

There is also a passage about camels and the eyes of needles that goes unnoticed in the modern interpretation of Calvinist predestinarian thought by many right-wing Christian groups, in the form of prosperity theology, to which Malkin and most other conservative commentators (and far too many American across the board) appear to subscribe: rich people are righteous and poor people are sinners. Such statements are not only too broad to be accurate, but grossly misrepresentative of what Jesus actually said about the rich and the poor.

Just a few examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tell me, what religious and moral grounds you can use to attack Michelle Malkin?&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230; she doesn&#8217;t love her neighbor, or at the very least she does not behave in a manner appropriate to the principle of loving thy neighbor as outlined in the Bible. She frequently professes as much hatred (or more) for the sinner than for the sin, except when the sin fits into her prejudiced view of the world. I have not seen evidence of forgiveness or humility in accord with Biblical principles of both in her behavior.</p>
<p>There is also a passage about camels and the eyes of needles that goes unnoticed in the modern interpretation of Calvinist predestinarian thought by many right-wing Christian groups, in the form of prosperity theology, to which Malkin and most other conservative commentators (and far too many American across the board) appear to subscribe: rich people are righteous and poor people are sinners. Such statements are not only too broad to be accurate, but grossly misrepresentative of what Jesus actually said about the rich and the poor.</p>
<p>Just a few examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/playboy-now-with-more-misogyny/comment-page-1/#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy, thanks for the link!  I&#039;ll update my post.</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/playboy-now-with-more-misogyny/comment-page-1/#comment-3070</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USpace, I&#039;m no defender of NOW, but I will give them credit for coming out with a strong statement condemning the Playboy article (though they probably wouldn&#039;t have bothered if Elisabeth Hasselbeck hadn&#039;t pressed them for it.)  But you&#039;re right, the level of outrage would have been entirely different if these were liberal women - you know, &quot;real&quot; women.

One other point on your comment: one reason this was particularly heinous is that Playboy is a mainstream publication that has published the likes of Bill Buckley and Arthur Schlesinger. Hustler is a different animal entirely.  If they did something similar, it would be harder to get worked up into a lather because we don&#039;t really expect better of Hustler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USpace, I&#8217;m no defender of NOW, but I will give them credit for coming out with a strong statement condemning the Playboy article (though they probably wouldn&#8217;t have bothered if Elisabeth Hasselbeck hadn&#8217;t pressed them for it.)  But you&#8217;re right, the level of outrage would have been entirely different if these were liberal women &#8211; you know, &#8220;real&#8221; women.</p>
<p>One other point on your comment: one reason this was particularly heinous is that Playboy is a mainstream publication that has published the likes of Bill Buckley and Arthur Schlesinger. Hustler is a different animal entirely.  If they did something similar, it would be harder to get worked up into a lather because we don&#8217;t really expect better of Hustler.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Frich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Frich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost Playboy web feature:
UNEDITED

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/06/02/the-playboy-article-nsfw

I&#039;m posting this filth because it is typical of what the opposition does to conservative females in attempt to silence them.
Brushing it under the rug will prevent us from exposing the creeps.  Stand up to the bullies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost Playboy web feature:<br />
UNEDITED</p>
<p><a href="http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/06/02/the-playboy-article-nsfw" rel="nofollow">http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/06/02/the-playboy-article-nsfw</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m posting this filth because it is typical of what the opposition does to conservative females in attempt to silence them.<br />
Brushing it under the rug will prevent us from exposing the creeps.  Stand up to the bullies!</p>
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		<title>By: USpace</title>
		<link>http://www.jennqpublic.com/playboy-now-with-more-misogyny/comment-page-1/#comment-3062</link>
		<dc:creator>USpace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
Conservative women are HOTter!  Just imagine the justified &#039;Liberal&#039; outrage if say, &#039;Hustler&#039; Magazine ran a disgusting parody where Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage and Ann Coulter gang-rape and tickle-torture Katie Couric, the PIAPS,  and then Nancy Pelosi.

Imagine.  The outrage would last for months in the MSM.  There would be calls for firings and boycotts.  NOW would be apoplectic.  Poor little outraged, hypocritical Libs.

:)

absurd thought - 
God of the Universe says
joke about raping women

if they are conservative
EVIL freedom lovers...

.
absurd thought - 
God of the Universe says
sex is the height of evil

so is photography
but not pornography

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
always rape women...

who are conservative
they&#039;re just gender traitors
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.<br />
Conservative women are HOTter!  Just imagine the justified &#8216;Liberal&#8217; outrage if say, &#8216;Hustler&#8217; Magazine ran a disgusting parody where Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage and Ann Coulter gang-rape and tickle-torture Katie Couric, the PIAPS,  and then Nancy Pelosi.</p>
<p>Imagine.  The outrage would last for months in the MSM.  There would be calls for firings and boycotts.  NOW would be apoplectic.  Poor little outraged, hypocritical Libs.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>absurd thought &#8211;<br />
God of the Universe says<br />
joke about raping women</p>
<p>if they are conservative<br />
EVIL freedom lovers&#8230;</p>
<p>.<br />
absurd thought &#8211;<br />
God of the Universe says<br />
sex is the height of evil</p>
<p>so is photography<br />
but not pornography</p>
<p>.<br />
absurd thought -<br />
God of the Universe says<br />
always rape women&#8230;</p>
<p>who are conservative<br />
they&#8217;re just gender traitors<br />
.</p>
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		<title>By: Playboy: Now With More Misogyny! : The New Agenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Playboy: Now With More Misogyny! : The New Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a slightly edited version of an essay originally published on the Jenn Q. Public blog. The author&#8217;s opinions are her own, not necessarily those of The New Agenda. Playboy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a slightly edited version of an essay originally published on the Jenn Q. Public blog. The author&#8217;s opinions are her own, not necessarily those of The New Agenda. Playboy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you retarded?

&quot;Ahhh, so I’m not the only troll anymore&quot;

I don&#039;t think you know what trolling is.

&quot;Such a wonderfully provocative statement, the sort of thing that might inspire a reaction of some kind from some Marxist cabal. Brave the way he risks speaking out so clearly against leftist tyranny so powerful that it has subverted the nation.&quot;

A nonsensical straw man. As a Bi-racial person I have heard what lefties say about Black folk when they think none are around, and this is not the only example of misogyny from lefties that I have commented on. Try arguing the point I make rather than the fantasy character you made up to feel superior.

&quot;Such a heroic young patriot.&quot;

I&#039;m 37 which is old enough to have seen this show. Try condescending to people who don&#039;t know you&#039;re basically a house bound parasite trolling my wife&#039;s blog at all hours of the day.

&quot;He forgot to mention that it’s part of international Jewish conspiracy, so we’d all know to take him seriously.&quot;

I&#039;m a pro-Zionist supporter of Israel and have literally dozens of posts on my blog detailing leftist anti-Semitism. You&#039;re clearly projecting onto me the unseemly bigotry of your fellow travelers.

&quot;Of course, it DOES sound like something Michelle Malkin would say. Though she probably would have had an explanation about the secret terrorist statement implicit in Michelle Obama’s sleeveless dresses instead of the international Jewish conspiracy… and then end up getting sued by Dunkin Donuts.&quot;

In other words Malkin deserves it? Why don&#039;t you show me one anti-Semitic statement made by Malkin, and I&#039;ll point out the time DailyKos allowed a video from White Supremacists to be used as anti-Israeli propaganda.

&quot;On a more serious note, if hardly more serious of import, it should be noted that the ugly euphemism in question, it the usual parlance, does not refer to rape or violence.&quot;

Wrong again. It is originally a term for violent degradation heavy internet porn. Google it and see what comes up. Hate F%^&amp;ing literally means having rough sex with someone you dislike and wish to humiliate. That there is consent doesn&#039;t make it less degrading. Some women consent to being tied up and spanked, that doesn&#039;t mean the sadists who masochists partner with don&#039;t hate women.

&quot;It refers to the intense reaction inherent in acting on erotic tensions that exist despite, or even because of, such a visceral dislike between the participants.&quot;

This is pseudo-academic psychobabble at its most pernicious. I&#039;d say a rose by any other name smells as sweet but I wouldn&#039;t want you to comment on the materialist dialectic inherent in capitalist subjugation of the proletariat through literary classicism.

&quot;I agree it’s entirely misogynistic to attack women in a sexually degrading way because they are female. Misogyny is a prevalent subtext in so much of American male culture, even more common than an unconscious racism in white American culture, and it’s not something any of us should be proud of.&quot;

But this person&#039;s douchebaggery must be first and foremost blamed squarely on him and his sadism. Then some responsibility must go tot the audience that encourages him (liberals) and finally the ideology that produces people like him. To say all Americans share in his misogyny (or Robert Byrd&#039;s racism) is to relive them of their personal responsibility and worse blame me and thousands of other people who doesn&#039;t partake in such venom for their actions.

&quot;It bothers me to see liberals stoop to such garbage, particularly when there are so many legitimate way to attack many of the people on his list on moral, political, or religious grounds. It’s the stupidest kind of adolescent misogyny.&quot;

Not enough to try to correct the problem though huh? No nasty letters, no campaign to clean up the left? You&#039;re not bothered by the attacks on these women, you&#039;re bothered that it might make people realizes you share their basic nihilism.

Tell me, what religious and moral grounds you can use to attack Michelle Malkin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you retarded?</p>
<p>&#8220;Ahhh, so I’m not the only troll anymore&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you know what trolling is.</p>
<p>&#8220;Such a wonderfully provocative statement, the sort of thing that might inspire a reaction of some kind from some Marxist cabal. Brave the way he risks speaking out so clearly against leftist tyranny so powerful that it has subverted the nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>A nonsensical straw man. As a Bi-racial person I have heard what lefties say about Black folk when they think none are around, and this is not the only example of misogyny from lefties that I have commented on. Try arguing the point I make rather than the fantasy character you made up to feel superior.</p>
<p>&#8220;Such a heroic young patriot.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 37 which is old enough to have seen this show. Try condescending to people who don&#8217;t know you&#8217;re basically a house bound parasite trolling my wife&#8217;s blog at all hours of the day.</p>
<p>&#8220;He forgot to mention that it’s part of international Jewish conspiracy, so we’d all know to take him seriously.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a pro-Zionist supporter of Israel and have literally dozens of posts on my blog detailing leftist anti-Semitism. You&#8217;re clearly projecting onto me the unseemly bigotry of your fellow travelers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, it DOES sound like something Michelle Malkin would say. Though she probably would have had an explanation about the secret terrorist statement implicit in Michelle Obama’s sleeveless dresses instead of the international Jewish conspiracy… and then end up getting sued by Dunkin Donuts.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words Malkin deserves it? Why don&#8217;t you show me one anti-Semitic statement made by Malkin, and I&#8217;ll point out the time DailyKos allowed a video from White Supremacists to be used as anti-Israeli propaganda.</p>
<p>&#8220;On a more serious note, if hardly more serious of import, it should be noted that the ugly euphemism in question, it the usual parlance, does not refer to rape or violence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong again. It is originally a term for violent degradation heavy internet porn. Google it and see what comes up. Hate F%^&amp;ing literally means having rough sex with someone you dislike and wish to humiliate. That there is consent doesn&#8217;t make it less degrading. Some women consent to being tied up and spanked, that doesn&#8217;t mean the sadists who masochists partner with don&#8217;t hate women.</p>
<p>&#8220;It refers to the intense reaction inherent in acting on erotic tensions that exist despite, or even because of, such a visceral dislike between the participants.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is pseudo-academic psychobabble at its most pernicious. I&#8217;d say a rose by any other name smells as sweet but I wouldn&#8217;t want you to comment on the materialist dialectic inherent in capitalist subjugation of the proletariat through literary classicism.</p>
<p>&#8220;I agree it’s entirely misogynistic to attack women in a sexually degrading way because they are female. Misogyny is a prevalent subtext in so much of American male culture, even more common than an unconscious racism in white American culture, and it’s not something any of us should be proud of.&#8221;</p>
<p>But this person&#8217;s douchebaggery must be first and foremost blamed squarely on him and his sadism. Then some responsibility must go tot the audience that encourages him (liberals) and finally the ideology that produces people like him. To say all Americans share in his misogyny (or Robert Byrd&#8217;s racism) is to relive them of their personal responsibility and worse blame me and thousands of other people who doesn&#8217;t partake in such venom for their actions.</p>
<p>&#8220;It bothers me to see liberals stoop to such garbage, particularly when there are so many legitimate way to attack many of the people on his list on moral, political, or religious grounds. It’s the stupidest kind of adolescent misogyny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not enough to try to correct the problem though huh? No nasty letters, no campaign to clean up the left? You&#8217;re not bothered by the attacks on these women, you&#8217;re bothered that it might make people realizes you share their basic nihilism.</p>
<p>Tell me, what religious and moral grounds you can use to attack Michelle Malkin?</p>
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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a more serious note, if hardly more serious of import, it should be noted that the ugly euphemism in question, it the usual parlance, does not refer to rape or violence. It refers to the intense reaction inherent in acting on erotic tensions that exist despite, or even because of, such a visceral dislike between the participants. Or so I am told. Sounds a bit unpleasant to me, but I am old-fashioned about such things.

Beyond that, the article sounds repugnant. I agree it&#039;s entirely misogynistic to attack women in a sexually degrading way because they are female. Misogyny is a prevalent subtext in so much of American male culture, even more common than an unconscious racism in white American culture, and it&#039;s not something any of us should be proud of. It bothers me to see liberals stoop to such garbage, particularly when there are so many legitimate way to attack many of the people on his list on moral, political, or religious grounds. It&#039;s the stupidest kind of adolescent misogyny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more serious note, if hardly more serious of import, it should be noted that the ugly euphemism in question, it the usual parlance, does not refer to rape or violence. It refers to the intense reaction inherent in acting on erotic tensions that exist despite, or even because of, such a visceral dislike between the participants. Or so I am told. Sounds a bit unpleasant to me, but I am old-fashioned about such things.</p>
<p>Beyond that, the article sounds repugnant. I agree it&#8217;s entirely misogynistic to attack women in a sexually degrading way because they are female. Misogyny is a prevalent subtext in so much of American male culture, even more common than an unconscious racism in white American culture, and it&#8217;s not something any of us should be proud of. It bothers me to see liberals stoop to such garbage, particularly when there are so many legitimate way to attack many of the people on his list on moral, political, or religious grounds. It&#8217;s the stupidest kind of adolescent misogyny.</p>
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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All Liberals are secretly racist and misogynists. It’s built into their Marxist based pseudo-theology which strips away the notion that people can own property (including their own bodies) and that individualism and non-conformity are in actuality worse crimes than rape.

I just hope when they eventually arrest him for the actual rapes he no doubt partakes in that he gets a dose of his own fantasy in prison.&quot;

Ahhh, so I&#039;m not the only troll anymore. And clearly not the best, either. Such a wonderfully provocative statement, the sort of thing that might inspire a reaction of some kind from some Marxist cabal. Brave the way he risks speaking out so clearly against leftist tyranny so powerful that it has subverted the nation. Such a heroic young patriot. He forgot to mention that it&#039;s part of international Jewish conspiracy, so we&#039;d all know to take him seriously.

Of course, it DOES sound like something Michelle Malkin would say. Though she probably would have had an explanation about the secret terrorist statement implicit in Michelle Obama&#039;s sleeveless dresses instead of the international Jewish conspiracy... and then end up getting sued by Dunkin Donuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All Liberals are secretly racist and misogynists. It’s built into their Marxist based pseudo-theology which strips away the notion that people can own property (including their own bodies) and that individualism and non-conformity are in actuality worse crimes than rape.</p>
<p>I just hope when they eventually arrest him for the actual rapes he no doubt partakes in that he gets a dose of his own fantasy in prison.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahhh, so I&#8217;m not the only troll anymore. And clearly not the best, either. Such a wonderfully provocative statement, the sort of thing that might inspire a reaction of some kind from some Marxist cabal. Brave the way he risks speaking out so clearly against leftist tyranny so powerful that it has subverted the nation. Such a heroic young patriot. He forgot to mention that it&#8217;s part of international Jewish conspiracy, so we&#8217;d all know to take him seriously.</p>
<p>Of course, it DOES sound like something Michelle Malkin would say. Though she probably would have had an explanation about the secret terrorist statement implicit in Michelle Obama&#8217;s sleeveless dresses instead of the international Jewish conspiracy&#8230; and then end up getting sued by Dunkin Donuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Liberals are secretly racist and misogynists. It&#039;s built into their Marxist based pseudo-theology which strips away the notion that people can own property (including their own bodies) and that individualism and non-conformity are in actuality worse crimes than rape.

I just hope when they eventually arrest him for the actual rapes he no doubt partakes in that he gets a dose of his own fantasy in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Liberals are secretly racist and misogynists. It&#8217;s built into their Marxist based pseudo-theology which strips away the notion that people can own property (including their own bodies) and that individualism and non-conformity are in actuality worse crimes than rape.</p>
<p>I just hope when they eventually arrest him for the actual rapes he no doubt partakes in that he gets a dose of his own fantasy in prison.</p>
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